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A SELECTIVE MICROFILM EDITION
PART IT (1879-1886) Thomas E. Jeffrey Microfilm Editor and Associate Director Paul B. Israel Assistant Editor Mary Ann Hellrigel Douglas G. Tarr David W. Hutchings Robert A. Rosenberg Editorial Associates Leonard DeGraaf John Deasey Joseph P. Sullivan Barbara B. Tomblin Alan Stein Jacquelyn Miller Karen Kozak Maria Antonakakis Student Assistants Keith A. Nier Assistant Editor Reese V. Jenkins
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THOMAS A. EDISON PAPERS
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1883. Electric Light - Foreign ~ United Kingdom - General (D-83-038)
This folder contains Correspondence, agreements, reports, and other documents relating to the Edison electric light system in the United Kingdom. Among the correspondents are Arnold White, secretary of the Edison Electric Light Company, Ltd., and H. S. Trehearne, acting secretary of the company. Some of the documents deal with the merger of Edison's company with the Swan United Electric Light Company, Ltd. in October 1883, Related material can be found in the Records of the Edison Electric Light Company, Ltd. (Company Records Series), Several documents in this folder are partially illegible because of water damage.
Approximately 70 percent of the documents have been filmed. The following categories of documents have not been filmed: routine Correspondence regarding accounts, orders, and shipments of goods; correspondence confirming cable messages; duplicate copies of selected documents; copies of cable messages filmed in Letterbooks, LM-001 and LM-002 (Letterbook Series).
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_18T JANUARY, 1383. ; arian i
MY. DEAR INSULL, A; HAVE YOUR LETTER OF DECEMBER THE 20TH’ AND AM MUCH 0 sabee bata ear, a : ee , a ,
“8LIGED FOR IT, J HAD A VERY BAD TIME COUING OVER, SUFFERING FROM
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STONE IN THE BILSARY DUCTS AND FOR THREE RE? t Ae IN AGONY DAY AND : rn Corer re ree =f :
NIGHT AND CONDE THE EN meee OF OPIUM an MOBPHERS t ARRUYEO-4N LON= ' 9 Peay
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EVERYTHING SEEMS TO HAVE GONE TO THE Devil WHILE 1 WAS AWAY, BUT THE neve ie ch, TONIC OF WY. vieiT To AMERICA WILL. 4 HAVE ‘No oust ENABLE ME TO (Place WATTERS MORE IN Acconnance WITH THE IDEAS OF. You PEOPLE OVER THERE, al BHALL HOPE To SEE-MR, MACHARDY AND GIVE HIM A MORE A-
~GREEABLE IMPRESSION THAN HE. APPEARS TO HAVE OBTAINED ON HIG LAST visit HERE.
CAPTAIN SHAW 18 GETTING OUT OF HIS SHARES AND THERE 18 A a PRETTY WHOLESOME FUNK ESTABLISHED ALL ROUND. -EVERY LETTER | HAVE WRIT= “TEN TO AMERICA AND EVERY LETTER -I SHALL WRITE WILL CONTAIN ONE REQUEST
AND. THAT $8 THAT. MR, EDI GON WILL. REVEAL As QUICKLY. AS POSSIBLE -THE EXACT
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EDISON SYBTEM EXCEPT MYSELFE AND THE GAME 18 A veERY UPHILL ONE,
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ALL LETTERS TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE SECRETARY.
74, Coleman Street,
London, E.C.,__LL1-7H_atANUARY,.._.1883,_
MY DEAR INSULL,
“THE FIRST DAY | WAS IN NEW YORK EDISON SENT OFF A NOTE To ‘SOMEBODY AT THE MACHINE WORKS ASKING HIM’ TO COUPLE UP AN a MACHINE wits AN ARMINGTON ENGINE SO THAT THE NUMRER OF REVOLUTIONS SHOULD NOT
BE MORE THAN ABOUT 500. t ASKED YOU TO BE GOOD ENOUGH TO KEEP HIS NoTe
¥ “IN ORDER THAT I MIGHT BRING 1T HOME, THE SCOTCH ENGINEERS ARE NOW GROWL~ } tn : ¥ “sING AT THE AMOUNT OF STEAM USED BY THE BROTHERHOON ENGINE, 1 AM VERY “7 ANXLOUS TO GAAS SOON AS POBSIBLE EXACTLY WHAT IT 18 THAT (8 DONE IN. CS
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MACHINE WITH AN ENGINE RUNNING AT A SMALLER NUMBER OF REVOLUTIONS. YOURS VERY TRULY, ;
SAMUEL INSULL ESQ., _ 65, FIFTH AVENUE,
NEW YORK, U.S. Ae
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'/ro BH ADDRESSED TO / THE SEORETARY. ae
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PILLOW BLOCKH “FOR. Z-“OYNAMO tN. SOME GASES. ARE-NOT INTERCHANGEABLE.
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ance “Ye SRE GINDING SCREWS DEFECT IVE.
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ALL LETTERS The Edison Electric Light Company, Limited, TO BH ADDRESSED TO :
THE SECRETARY. 74, Coleman Street,
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THH SEHORETARY, 74, Coleman Street,
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T. AVEDISON ESQ. ;
fad “O55 FIFTH AVENUE, - i ; A ‘NEW YORK. ) send Ge, i lea y I” BEG TO CONFIRM CABLEGRAMS AS FOLLOWS 3 ~ \ FROM ¥OU 3isT: JANUARY, \ i Bd y ; : i fc i lei AIP CENTRAL STATION ARMINGTON SATURDAY ANSWER, '! | v Ka ines | pee Ok Nanton: - * TO Vou 3ist JANUARY.
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“IN Your CENTRAL STAT CON. AND REVERTED To THE PORTER=ALLEM: BECAUDE
3 CA% FHE EACROB IVE, WEAR OF THE FORMER, .MACH UNE. . ON RECEIVING: FROM you “we e
(a eerone YOUR CABLE OF YANDARY 3ory AS FOLLOWS:~ '' CAN SHIP CENTRAL ST AT LON ARM INGTON SATURDAY ANQWERT! WE THOUGHT: IT BETTER TO caBLe THE Next DAY "*ARE YOU DISCARDING ARMINGTONS #N CENTRAL STATUON'' TO.WwHEOH WE Have Now RECEIVED THE REPLY. "CERTAINLY: NoT.'' AS Me JOHNSON. W 1h BE HERE tN A MEEK TB CT oe WE HAVE THOUGHT. 37 SETTER TO AWAIT-HIB ARRIMAL
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This Ton TRANONIZS ond a pEnrvEns messages: Soniye on pondlttons limiting its ability whist lave been assented to by the anes OF the followt: casa : rors ane usrdod bonly by Beavers oO messago back to the sending station for comparison, and tho company will not or ftsolt liable. irae sane mas ne cing th nema dutivery of. nropente Mossage ft ni
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* ALL LETTERS . TO BE ADDRESSED To . 74, Coleman Street,
THE SECRETARY.
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aie ze TO _YOU_ 12TH FEBRUARY,
("+ geup THREE HUMORED [00-CANDLE Lamps,** ra
os IN CASE 91 RECENTLY RECEIVED FROM YOU 700 & LAMPS WERE ’
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1 AM, DEAR 81k.
YOURS TRULY,
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Telaphone No. 946,
ALL LETTHRS The Edison Electric Light Company, Limited, TO BE ADDRESSED T s
ORETARY. cana 74,.Coleman Street,
\ 3 London, E.C.,..... 5TH, FERRUARY, 1883s.
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1 AM, DEAR 8iR,
YOURS TRULY,
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6TH, 8TH AND 9TH INSTANT. ae AMEE. GACKET OF LAMP={SCREWS - ate SE
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WITH A ee INCREASED DIAMETER ANO THE OIFFICULTY 1S THUS OBVIATLD.
i PATENT fie 8025 1880.
we RecgivED vour B soregenesaiah or inG. us To: LET THIS PATENT
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LAPSE TOO LATE TO BE OF SERVICE, AS WE HAD ALREADY! PAD THE THIRD Years:
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578, 1880, ;:anone-theckagicer-or-vouR ‘MESSAGE.
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“THE EDISON ELECTRIC. LUGHT | COMPANY; ‘LiMiTED?
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To Nouman Carrrat— . £ os dd ‘ 50,000 A Sharos of £10 cach ., oe oe ne e ae -+ 600,000 0 0 50,000 B Shares of £10 cach aoe
1,000,000 0 0 Of which thero haye been issued ae AShares £6 paid. 0,000 B Shares issued to, T. A. “Raison, ion rit) paid, as per Contra. :
ae
To Sunpry Crepirors
5,297 17 6
To Revenve. Balance as per annexed Account .. : Less Interest at 6 o/o por annum paid on A Shares on 20th October,
1882, for Half-yoar ending 15th Soptembor, 1882 .: 2,500 0 0
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600,000. 0 0.
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100,000 0 0
4 2,797 17 6
By Parents anp | Prennunany Oumay, Lhe Cosr op Parents 8 23% ¥"
10,000«B, Shares -issuéd' to T. A. Edison in part purchase of his Patont Rights under clause 10 of the Agreomont of 18th February, 1882 .. a
Sundry Expenditure prior to the formation of the Company by tho proprictors, of the Edison
Electric Light System, (being” jdt of the amount °
payablo in cash for Patents and Plant)’.
argos, Patent Duty, and other oxpongos inourred sinco, in connection with tho Patents and their transfer, &0, ..
Pretmoanary Ovrnay— Logal ee in formation and rogistration of
Law
Com
Holborn. PVinduot Installation, cost. ‘of Buildings, . Plant, Wages and ASAOADNE, less Rents received.
Expenditure in oxhibiting at Crystal’ Palaco. ond elsowhore, including gratuities and feos .. te
Advortising, Stamps, Stationery, &o. .. wee
Proportion of Offico Ronts, Rates, Taxes, &.
Legal Exponses in connection with tho formation of . District Companies, tho Electric Lighting Bill, and'tho obtaining of Provisional Ordors .
Leas—
Proportion of £13,000 received in cash from the
Manchester and District Edison Electric Light Company, Limited
- 10,000 B Shares in tho’ samo “Company takon for
the Puree of these Accounts at the nominal
sum 0
By Advance to 'T, A, Edison under clauses 12 and 13 of tho Agreomont of 18th February, 1882,—To be repaid out of
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100,000 0 0
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14,607 7 11
1,668 17 8 f: SaaS
Dividends horcaftor to be declared upon a moicty of .”
the B Shares held by him... ie ae e 1» Stock, viz., Engines and Material. .. rf Leasehold a endne vas of Purchnso and alterations to officos. . . oa » Sundry Debtors . » Shares in Manchestor and District "Bdison ‘Dleotrio Light Oompany, Limited—10,000 B Sharos of £10 ae taken as above stated at » Works in progress—Takon at cost
17,000 0 0
14,166 5 7
81,562 11 9
47,718 17 4
30,718
20,000 32,664
1,272
3,917
12,000 499 1
‘ Office Furniture ve ae hes oi oe ave ‘ é : » Cash at Bankers S3 es a, ts vie ie ats 1,462 2
£107,840 189 £107,340 18 9 We havo ceaiatacd tho above Balanco-sheet with the Books and Vouchers of the Company, and find tho samo
to be correct, (Signed) PRICE, WATERHOUSE & Co.
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London, 17th May, 1883.
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REVENUE ACCOUNT, from 16th ; March, 1882, to 15th Afarch, 1883.
« To Cost of Materials sold and issued, and Wages pee on Installations nampleees : » Directors’ Foes as . oe
>,» Management, Salarios, and Wages leer
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» Proportion of Ronts, Ratos, Insuranco and Travelling Expenses
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2,769 4 2 1,349 7 6
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4,118 11 611 9
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£44, 719 210
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Telephone No. 346, ALL LETTERS TO BH ADDRESSED TO THH SHORETARY,
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a (Te Ae EDISON E£5Q., a oh G5, FIFTH AVENUE, e ‘4 NeW YORKe 1 BEG TO CONFIRM CABLEGRAM AS FOLLOWS: - FROM YOU L9TH INSTANT. HUNDRED = SANDLE LAMPS GERMANIC.*! , a ME ARE GLAD TO HAVE ADVI0G-95.. THROG—LAM ED AO. WEODNAL Ll BE ENABLED TO MAKE USE OF THEM FOR SEVERAL STEAMERS WHICH WE HAVE AT Ke PRESENT ON HAND, YOU WILL BE PLEASED TO LEARN THAT REPORT ON THE I FIRST STEAMER FITTED UP BY US "THE TARAWERA" , STATES THAT THE PLANT | WORKED WELL THROUGHOUT THE VOYAGE FROM GREENOCK TO MELUOURNE, ONLY 10 4 } LAMPS OUT OF A TOTAL OF 150 BROKE ON THE PASSAGE. | | | r 1 AM, DEAR SIR, ‘ YOURS TRULY, | | i 1 } P ui LA at hor
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ALL LETTHRS - The Edison Electric Light Company, Limited, TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE SEORETARY. fi Coidnnn Beast London, E.C.24TH APRIL, 1883... Ts As EDISON ae poneeeeneart a ” 65, FIFT. ENE, ; NEw Yo ¢ G EI RKe . “1 i] a ; ee 14 ey ENCLOSED 1 BEG TO HAND you THREE” ORDERS - ONE FOR PLIGS,
E ROR CUT-QUTS ANO ONE. FOR TWO ARMINGTON ENGINES, WE TRUST YOU Witt
i ABLE TO INVOICE THE CUT~OUTS AT A CONG 1 OERABLY LOWER FIGURE THAN
Fuat CHARGED BY BERGMANN [N EERRUARY Last. IN REGARO TO THE ARMINGTON
ENGINES, THESE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE Ene WHEEL 9" IN BREAOTH
WITH A FLANGE ONE INCH DEEP To TAKE A 7" BELT. THEY ARE TO BE SHIPPED Tc:
\
*ogREer’ 9 GLASGOW, TO OUR ORDER THERE, ne ARE OF OPINION THAT A DIS-..
“coun oF ARBaor 5% SHOULO BE ALLOWED OFF THE PRICE OF THESE ENGINES
OR PROMPT CASH SUCH AS WE ARE In THE HABIT | oF PAYING, YOU WILL NOTE ae aa
4
FROM THE ORDER THAT THESE ENGINES ARE FOR “4 NEW GUION LINER ™ OREGON,®
| AM, DEAR SIR, | % \
. Yours ys « : Mop Go. :
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ACTING SECRETARY,
; ! 3_ENCLOSURES, \
The Edison Electric Light Caine Limited.
74, Coleman Street,
London, E. .Cuy__@ATH_ APRIL, 188... 3
'DISON ESQ.
NEW YORK. 4 DEAR SIR,"
Ge ted WHEN HReWHITE WAS IN AMERICA YOU. WERE GOOD ENOUGH To "° Express. TO, HIM THE. HOPE .THAT, YOU WOULD. BE ABLE TO RELIEVE US OF A CON | “81 DERABLE Quanriry QF THE STOCK-OF,OYNAMOS ON HAND:HERE OR LYING TO OUR’ ORDER IN AMER: 4 Ghy ne aLso TO WRITE us TO GIMELAR EFFECT, AS WE HAVE NOT SINCE, THAY EIME,, SEEN ABLE..TO MATERIALLY REDUCE THe LARGE STOCK : THEN HELO, WE SHOULD QE GLAD TO LEARN WHETHER YOU ARE-YET IN A POSITION TO TAKE ANY OF THES MACHINERY OFF OUR. HANDS, - WE REFER ESPECIALLY To THE & OYNAMOS LYING IN NEW YORK AND To THE & AND Ki SIZEs8 IN STORE HERE.
1 AM, DEAR SIR,
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ALL LETTERS .* 74; Coleman Street, TO BH ADDRESSED TO
one SHORETARY,, aio corer om se London BG, 22a be APRIL, 188s.
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GUVEN TO THIS MATTER a¥ tovarts FANANGLAL MEETING AND 47 WAS AGREED TO
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ADVANCE TO MR..EDISON THE SUM OF ago ON HIS GENERAL “AocounT, You ween UNOGREVAND THAT Tite away HAG no" SPECIAL REFERENCE to the watent age “COUNT AS THE COMPANY ARE NOT YET IN A Bocinian TO DETERMINE AB TO. HAT IF ANY PATENTS THEY WILL TAKE OVER UNDER CLAUSE 9 IN, THE AGREEMENT WIth VALENSGON NATED ¢4TH FEOUMARY, 847A,
YOURS VERY TRULY,
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74, Coleman Street,
~ TO 5B ADDRESS % THE SEORETARY,
London, E.C.,.26T! APRI by £883...
CA, FIFTH AVCNUG, New YORK.
MESSRS NAPLERTS SHIPS,
| BEG LEAVE To. FORWARD YoU copy OF A terran RECEIVED FROM MR. Oe Te GRANT, OUR GLASGOW AGENT, ANO OF A MEMORANDUM FROM MR. ARNOLO WHITe TO THE DIRECTORS, RELATIVE TO THE REFUSAL oF OUR TENDER FoR THE LIGHTING OF THREE OF MESERS, NAPIER'S VEBSELS, * Voi) WILE PeRCEIVE THAT A ee UNFORTUNATE COHTRETEMPS HAS OCCURRED, INASMUCH AG THE ENGLISH EDISON LIGHT COMPANY HAS HAD THe GROUND CUT FROM UNDER ITS FeeT BY A CONTINENTAL COMPANY BEARING YOUR NAME. THE WHULE AFEAIR HAS BEEN FULLY DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING Uf THe DIRECTORS, WHO ARE OF OPINION THAT YOUR FRIGNOS IN ITALY HAVE TAKEN AOVANTAGE OF THIS COMPANY; ANDO THEY FeEL SURE THAT THEY HAVE ONLY TO BRING THESE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER YOUR WOTICe To ewliar YOUR SYMPATHI cS, AND TO INDUCE YOU TO BRING YOUR PERSONAL INFLUENCe TO BEAR ON PROFESSOR COLOMAD, THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COM= PANY IN QUESTION.
| AM, DEAR SIR, YOURS TRULY,
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THE EDISON ELECTRIC LIGHT COMPANY, LIMITED.
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"104, WESTNGBORGE STREET, GLASGOW. 2IST APRIL, 1883, j
STON THIS” MISHAP 1S ONE $0. SERIOUS AS TO DESERVE THE
* \MMEOTATE "ATTENTION OF THE ‘BOARD, THAT: “WE SHOULD : _AgSe y THe ce THREE: 5 ET!
6, : CIRCUS STANCE, “GETS: WINO AS: iv, tay ¢ 90, THAT, PARTIES : : 7 CAN GET EDISON'S. LIGHT CHEAPER: ELSEWHERE THAN WE
CAN SUPPLY, IT WILL BRING INTO “PLAY A” COMPETITION
MORE, DANAGING THAN ALL JHE: OTHER SYSTEMS COMBINED,
4 eR HAVING ASsertéo’ ole” PosiTton
AyoNa SHI ¥ outers AND, BU ELOER: AND: Gor A CERTAIN: , ‘ “AMOUNT OF “SUPREMACY TO” Be RéCOONTEED,§ tr V8" URKKS-” J, “TIONG Bevono. MEASURE TO FIND THAT. POSITION UNDER=
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[ENCLOSURE]
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(No, 26) .
* THE EDISON ELECTRIC LIGHT COMPANY, LIMITED.
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23RN APRIL, 1333
DURING MY RECENT VISIT TO GLASGOW FOR THE PURPOSE OF OATAINING THE "OREGON'*, THE OR-~ “DER FOR WHICH f BROUGHT BACK WITH ME 1 CALLED ON 6 MESSRS NAPIER WITH REGARD TO THE THREE SHIPS OUR TENNER FOR WHICH HAD BEEN ACCEPTED BUT THE FORMAL ACCEPTANCE OF WHICH HAD BEEN PELAYED PENDING THE REeCErPT “FROW THE NTRECTORS OF THE ITALLAN COMPANY |" FOR WHOM THE SHIPS WERE BUILDING OF THEIR ACQULES™ AGENCE IN WESSRS NAPIER'S SELECTION OF -THE EDIGON Pt ee COMPANY, THESE SHIPS WERE TO BE. FITTED BY THE Ce | ete RUB ANY AND THE PROFIT WOULD HAVE BEEN NOT ; LESS THAN. FROM. £800. TO: £900, - WE. HAD TAKEN CONSI- “DERABLE TROUBLE IN. THE PREPARAT tON, OF THE ESTIMATES. AND f HAD MYSELF VISITED GLASGOW ON ONE OR TWO OCH “CASIONG WITH THE SPECIAL OBJECT OF SECURING THESE VESSELS, ON CALLING ON MESSRS NAPIER ON FRIDAY LAST, ¢ WAS AMAZED TO FIND THAT THE COMPANY'S TEN “NER AND SPECIFICATION HAD. BEEN . OBTAINED at GENOA BY PROFESSOR COLOKEO, THE REPRESENTATIVE OR. DEREG@ e “TOR oF AN EDISON COMPANY ON THE CONTINENT, THAT PROFESSOR, COLOMEO HAN EN. BLOG APAPTEN OUR FIGURES AND, CONDITIONS. AND HAD OFFERED TO 00. THE WORK FOR £200 Less, to Gtve A GUARANTEE FOR SIX MONTHS AND TO Pt SPENSE with CERTAIN ASSLSTANCE.. ON. THE PART OF THE BUILDERS A& TO JOINER WORK WHICH HAD BEEN STI< ~PULATED FOR IN THE CONTRACT | HAD ARRANGED WITH MESERG NAPLER, - wh : “THE DIRECTORS. WILL OBSERVE THAT NOT ONLY HAVE WE Lost THIS LUCRATIVE CONTRAGT AND THE VALUABLE INTRONUCT ION 80 HARDLY QBTAINED, BUT, AN, IMPRESSION 1S GIVEN TO LARGE: BUILDERS THAT THE LIGHT= wING OF GHIPS BY THE EDISON SYSTEM CAN BE MORE CHEAP= “LY AND AS EFFICIENTLY DONE ELSEWHERE THAN IN ENG= “LANs | MESSRS NAPIER ARE NO. LESS ANNOYED THAN | WAS WYSECE AND 1. COMMUN! CATE, THESE, FACTS, ra LENGTH TO THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WITH THE VIEW OF RAISING A (RILSCUBSION ‘ON ‘THE WHOLE SUBJECT ‘OF OUR RELATION TO % EDESON'S COMPANIES AT AN EARLY MO Si) tees YARN,
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SBT YOU ON 24TH INSTANT, PLEASE NOTE THAT THE DRIVING PULLEYS MUST BE ab oe MADE TO TAKE A 9 INCH BELT WITHIN THE FLANGES ~ NOT A 7"AS STATED pi , :
OUR ORDER, PLEASE ALSO NOTE THAT THE ENGINES ARE TO BE SHIPPED TO LIVERPOOL PER GUEON LINE, INSTEAD OF TO GLASGOW, IN ORDER THAT THEY MAY BE TESTEO WITH THE DYNAMO AT MANCHESTER BEFORE BEING PUT ON BOARD
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T. Ae EDSON oN, FTH AVENUE, fi ju Zu ee NEW YORK, oe ; oe DEAR sir, gat v4 ; ” com METERS. a . A pis, F Bs WE REGRET TO HAVE TO COMPLAIN OF THE CONDITION IN WHICH a) : ; ; MBTERS ane RECEIVED BY US HERE. IN EVERY INSTANCE THOSE LATELY DE~
~i1veREO HAVE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE COMPENSATING RESISTANCE REAOQJUSTED THEREBY onesie INCREASING THEIR COST To Us. . “PERHAPS You WILL BE GOOD ENOUGH TO GIVE SUCH INSTRUCTIONS AS wie INSURE ACCURACY IN TONS RESPECT IN FUTURE DELIVERIES,
| AM, DEAR SiR,
YOURS TRULY,
“ ACTING ‘SECRETARY.
padi: 8, LEIGHTON: cusulered, that ‘it : ‘o,HO0L,-tn! ede een abargod 4 yy omeineeion anf nat upon the taxear *” ae batt hy Ca
at 4 sat pak ng of the. ‘varying’ brillfancy:” see “ight Ee the -réadin “FOOT 0 the Hons Jun toe Ho ander light moh bather: 1 er itv oy to8 and wi 68. :tendérs would be invited from oth opti les before the : electra. like wand es ofthe bull
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ay that pera szooms : abould ‘alte pf tho ald dawecurte, |
Mr. 8, LEFLVR, oxpfalbad baad ¥en mado,to ie Edison bs peti the dining yooms pair Honso
f all putt, he Fa ee ae i Gaseaty i a ora ‘atpall sung, he J ou; “that. © moubore a ‘should seo whal the effect: tt id: be,': Xt did. “not appear to in that-.clocktip Jighting in its presen relay Bate Meee, reat: arrangin, or tho ing, O 10 iW, 0 Has conal a rea id tha hola mabe atid had come to, the cons leer that he-could-not Invite competitions Ik aps eared to him.to be the beat plan to.ealeat tho tom fe thought most. likely to answer. He came to.tha | coniatuniete that tho Swan light was best adapted to! i ‘Law Courts. Between tha Stan and: the Edison he” saw little difference, 'As ho gayo the prefercnoa tg dno ; iin tho casd of tha Law. Courts it 9 dt <a fo bia eae hot ‘unrcasonablo:to try the Edison in that Ho {it would ho ultimately adopted ho ide nor ay, te of kon, mem!
‘would consult tho contort aud wi Alen, heat.
OBILL sepualated & sein a MMe, Lofevro:that he-might be: "intereated in the ‘Swan | || ior ign angvother ‘othr. company ; bat tho Swan,’ Company ba :
io rte: in’ @ ‘ nianner attend aryl aod “ade almost
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pauy igs am ee: and, the He ¢ hon,’ Daronot fie mem to the University of ‘of; London mat” : 3 the prino{pal director of. tho: Edlyo chp tne! ‘ : ' “Taught 4s greats supporter ah thovy Wi Pe ie arty. : ; ea nuahter) wns 3 membot, of bo, a Bs anda, ho belloved, ‘noforious—and if erent Meat a should ho easil ot Bae. Wane Ee Mr, Fags, fas triclan of tho
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‘Ho had no ‘right to give the advan ie coe rio i aire eater a ont: tp oxtraordinary ald nviloratie be ars, heh ma never took ont :.a * patent) until : Mr, loged his patent, ? He J before the eoucaed any, further: ennai “all
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The Edison Electric Light Company, Himited, |
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, — in 1h
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Tuart the Shea Orpinarv GeneRAL Meertine of the above-named Company will be held at the Cannon ' Street Hoi: Cannon Street, E.C., on Wepnespay, the Tureriern day of May, 1883, at { Two o'clock in the en for the following purposes, namely :—
To receive and consider the Annual Statement of Accounts and Balance
Sheet, and the Reports of the Directors and Auditors thereon; To elect Directors in the’ place of those retiring by rotation; and
To elect the Auditors for the coming year.
By order,
' HAS. TREHEARNE,
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Acting Secretary.
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TsAs EDISON ESQ, 65, FIFTH AVENUE, NEW YORK, U8 A.
DEAR SIR, _, BuetoseD PLEAGE FIND ORDER FOR LAMPS WHICH WE SHALL RE: VE Mos at IsHtPPING AT. YOUR. EARLY CONVEN TENCE, PART OF THE ORDER o4 . a f oH pa
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Pan : foie “/0F AOGKETS SUITABLE FOR 50 ANN 100 CANDLE LAMPS,
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ay i , WE TRUST THAT THE 8 LAMPS WILL BE MUCH BETTER THAN THE uy j
/ uker CON fuck: THESE HAVE ALL TURNED OUT EXCESGIVELY BAD, ANO IT
HAC ONLY BEEN WITH GREAT DIFFICULTY THAT WE HAVE PERSUADED ONE OF THE RALLWAY COMPANIES HERE TO REFRAIN FROM DIGCARDING OUR LAMPS FOR SWANS, WE AWAIT ADVICENOTE OF THE SAFETY CATCHES ON ORDER FOR
THE S28 * OREGON".
1 AM, DEAR SIR,
ACTING SECRET ARY
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_ 1, Your Directors have the pleasure of submitting herewith the accounts of tho Company made up to the 15th: March. 4 ;
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2. In addition to the acquisition of the Holborn Viaduct Station, which was. taken, over under the original agreement with Mr. Enison, the Company have offected installations at the House of Commons, the General’ Post’ Office, City and Guilds of London, the Waterloo Bridge Station, tha Holborn Restaurant and’ olscwhere. : : .
3. The Company is also developing a considerable business in connection with ships, i which thoy expect will prove important and lucrative. They have already obtained contracts for lighting the following vessels, some of which have been lit, and in the others the work is in progross, viz.:— =. . ' ; “Tarawera,” Union Steamship Company of New Zealand.
““Waihora,” —. Do. ; ~~» “ Rio Pardo,” -National Brazilian Steamship Company. e | “ Rio Parana,” Do. ,
“ Pateena,” Tasmanian Steam Navigation Company.
“ Minerva,” Compagnie Ia Platense.
“ Apolo,” Do.
“Clan Macarthur,” Clan Line,
TLS. “ Malabar,” Lroopship.
“ Oregon,” Guion Line.
“ Takapuna,” Union Steamship Company of New Zealand.
! It may be mentioned that the “Oregon ” is the first vessel which has dispensed entirely with oil or any other form of lighting, upon which to fall back in the event of the accidental extinction of the Electric Light.
4, Mr. Eptsow has, however, always been of tho opinien (in which the Board concur)
that the most profitable business of the Company would be that of Central Station Lighting. This was practically impossible without « change of the General Law. To meet this difficulty tho Electric Lighting Act of last year was passed, under which
Provisional Orders ‘may bo obtained, giving the necessary authority to tako up the streets: ; ' | but these Provisional Orders first require confirmation by Parliament beforo they are valid.
The form of these Provisional Ordors has only recently beon settled by the Board of Trade, but your Directors hope that tho time is now approaching when they may acquiro the ‘necessary powers to create the works for a central station on a large scale. ; !
5. Tho Sharcholdors are already aware that’ the Directors have ceded their rights to — the Mancnxsren ann Disrricr Epison Exvecrric Licut Company eo far as a large part of Lancashiro was concerned. This local Company has howevor encountered unexpected obstacles, and has applied to the parent Company to reconsider the termsof tho concession. Under all the ciroumstances, your Directors think that this request is reasonable and they will accordingly submit a resolution on the subject to the favourublo consideration of the Meeting. :
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: 6. Your Directors are adviséd that all Companies using Incandescent Lumps are. \ infringing the rights they have acquired under Mr. Enison’s Patents. They have bronght |. : a test action against the Swan Company, which is proceeding without unavoidable delays;
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and if, as they ‘anticipate, -this ia decided in ‘their favour, it is -to -be presumed that tho, other Electric Lighting Companies. will recognisé.the rights “of this Company. The Shari holders have already beon informed that a satisfuctory and amicable sottlement had been arrived at with one important Company, : : ,
7. Your Directors have from tho first hud the assistance of Dr. Horxiyson; F.R.S., and Dr. Fresno, a8 sciontific’ advisers of tho Cumpeny, and have greatly benofited by their advice and co-operation. -_ .
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” 8. The Shareholders ‘have already recéived’ a dividend at the Tate 6f 6 per’cont-por— oe a annum, up to the 15th of September last, und they will seo that the accounts would admit | of a further payment. If this were an ordinary’ joint-stock company, such an additional ; distribution might havo been considered desirable, but looking to the constitution of the Company, and in view of the increasing business, the Beard think it oxpedient to carry forward the bilance, :
: : 9. The Directors’ regret. that Mr. Wab resigned his seat at the Board some months Be ago: they -have clected Mr. M. M. Moonw and Mr. A, Wine as membors of the
| ‘ Board. ‘The Directors retiring by rotution are Mr. S. Bipweus and Sir J, Lunnock. i " . i; . es : . are P ae * For the Board, b, EAs ota ce
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NOTICE IS HEREBY. GIVEN, That-an EXTRAORDINARY, General MEETING of the ! above-named Company will be held at the. Offices of the Company, 74, Conenan Street, E.C,, on Tuespay, the roth day.of Jury, 1883, at 2 p.m., to consider;-and if: approved of,.to:pass the
following Resolutions, namely :— arte ele [Ok ,
(1) “That in Article 50 of the, Articles of Association ‘of the Company, «YO r via an whee Lobe & Gest’ i é Pn pie wera gC. mh oe ae
« substituted for ‘ 500)" ayeat® rr a 2
(2): . That,in. Article 91,,0f'the Articles of Association of the Company, the word‘ nine’
a be substituted for the word, ‘seven
“A Copy .of Articles 50 and 51, as they now. stand, is given.on,the other side.”
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Postponement f Extraordinary General Meeting
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Tue Epison Exectric Licntr Company, Liwtep, i iv : 74, CoLeman Street,
Lonpon, E.C., 6th July, 1883, ‘ Srr,
I am instrncted by the Boarp or Direcrors to inform you, that with
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the consent of the Gentlemen at whose request the Exrraorpinary GeNerAt. MeerinG,,
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: oo ~ i notice of which was sent.you on the 2sth June, was summoned, the said Meeting is
postponed from Turspay, roth Juzy, 1883, sine did.
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I am, Sir, - ; ~ . 12
Your obedient servant,
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‘Acting Secretary,
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TELEPHONE ne 2850. 1, NEW GOURT,
WATERHOUSE .WINTERBOTHAM & HARRISON, Solicitors, 3 CAREY STREET,
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ae 65 Fifth Avenue, aD . New York, July 24th 18838,
Theodora Vokomieaue Estes ad New Court, Carey Stroct, Lineolns Inn; London, W.G. Rngland. My Dear Sirte T have read with attention your favor of the 7th, inst ‘and have recoivad full explanations from Hr Johnson of tho torns of the papar submit bed to ne respocting tho propused aaalganmation with ‘the Swan Company,
: T havo to thank you fer the auneanner and fullnoss or ‘your statoment of reasons supposed to bo ain favor of adopting that plan,
Tt would he now idle and out of place tu debate any loner whether guieh an amalgamation ought at any time to ‘be mada,
Qoyield to tho claim which is made with great apparent reason, that the bettor knowledge of your dirsetors of tho local and tomporary circumstances gives thom the right to have their Opinion prevail,
the inerease of capital and of interest thoreon, accom- epaniod by a dacreasea of my doforrad! anvetont on “yn sharos must, as yott Will allow, make it a serious question for me to consider whother in any case T shall personally gain by thas change, I learn from persons accustomed to nglish ratos of intorest that seven and a hal por cent is regarded as a very high rate and havo
Ys hoard the opinion oxpressed that a cumulative dividend of
seven /and ahalf’ per cent, may practically dobar the “LB? sharehold=
\ “ers fron realizing, for a lone timo at least, any dividond which
on ee ils a cece le co Rte Bt ee hae te Sg it
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as Supe eee Be eat a ee ae Ph tae * 18P3-07-3 ye
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Mebe, will compensate for my labors or for tho actual outlay( exceeding what any shareholder in your company has paid for shares) incurrod . 7 in producing tho inventions which vou now own, I cannot judge sdunnnee this is so; T am however strongly desirous to aid the holders of “A” shares in realising the profits which ‘thoy have anticipated, I have therefore, after consultat.on with “Lr Pabbed, In Lowrey and Mr Johnson, decided to withdraw all oppo= “sition to a practienl analgamation if it ean be done with tha | following modifications of your aur
Firsti< Pho prevéerved annual dividends upon “A” sharos shall
be six per cent. cumlative; tho division after that payment to be
as proposed,
Secondt= tho Company shall be eallod the Fdison Blectric Light Company; or at least shall be distinguished by ry name in its title solely, Vhe company may at all times and in any manner “put! forward the faet that it is ths owner of the Rdison, Swan and_
Nopkinson or other patents, To this I have no objoetion,
The last condition is made solely on business grounds of groa
importance to me, and not atall upon any such feeling as might be
naturally imputed to me of wishing to pain in this way & coneossion as to.the disputed elaims of Nr Swan and mysolf coneerning lanp
_ patents, I loave out of view the fact that we are disputing those
claims; but the property which this company is to own and operate ' is’ an Bleetrie Lighting systom, to which IT have contributed other
inventions as indispensable to commercial succoss, my title to
which is not as I understand disputed anywhere, Moreover T am undor
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contract with your company in respoct to all my fugure inventions |
relating to Electric Light. I oxpoet continually to make additions,
some of which may bo of treat valuo, I an also largely interastod
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: » : 1983-07. 9 mi Jet nee ‘in overy other country in those -inventions and in thoir good famo, If becauso Mr. Swen and T aro disputing in respeet to one element of an Blectiie Lighting system, T should consent to havo all the ‘other great variety of inventions made or 40 be mado by me norged and their idontity lost in a eommon name, the peeuniary loss to mo might bo greator than any gain which I-can-sxpect from even the mor sucecossrul operations on your part in England, It would be betier for me to ‘lose ab onee and for over the interest ~ which T now havo in your company, and be fred to make other cons “neetions in respeet to future inventions, than to lose tho advan=
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ios, of having hy systom clearly rocognized,
eotage, in other counts I vemain in this country, and wherevoy else T can, as large an ' tig e ee
| “owner as vossile in my inventions, ZI have never partad with any
“or my holdings except whon compelled in vedas LO Garry on WY Vare
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~ious works, Other holdais are free to divest themselves of their holdings whon they ean do s0 with a profit: but T am bound by pride of reputation and b¥ pride and intorost in Wy work, to romain intes ~ostod in the Busdhows: Io axpeci, to be a large ownor in all com “panics ompLoyiniipdny ontions after inost bersons now. interested shall have sold owt and rotired with theirs profits,
You will hardly expeet me to continue working to build up by new
inventions and iaprovenents a business in which the identity of my
~~, ‘ ees ‘ F ‘ % contributions has been lost; ospecially when the preservation of that identity is so necossary to the value of ny Sinilar intorests in all other countrics,
i If i Svan remains interosied ag do; and if his contributions
4 # ' heretofore. have beon as oxtensive and various as mine; and if he
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intends continuing to devote an active life to making constant
‘additions to the proporty of the amalramated company; and if his Bt : :
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as mino aré*by tho ‘uso or non=use of “his name in England: then his
ae 1s. Brians: mny wittir ijual forea say what T have said. fn that cas
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re a tnovodaholmanstwatetnaumonntablc obstacle to an 1 rma gaination, since
peurspgei a7!
oy nOLehar. Of). as: oughiy' as +T think, to giva away whatever advantage
t j is liabie~ “tO RBecrue from propor Peon qpekng g2von in the course | pathol . a } mene bn ee ee ca oy t i of the developnnnt or our respective: ‘labors,’ we a oe 2 i It believo the fored Of thd ‘roasons for doclining to favor 1
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any arlad. game, fion which dows not eunforn to the :
or participate 4 in? “a na = 8
- Bbove conditions wild be admitted by yourself’ and by the direchors
NN = a Re tis ° ; ‘ : «or ‘Four ecomprny;> and, I hopo also by the mon of business who culnpe sa Sd a eas
wan Gorpa Ne Ii all other respects I aceept what is proposed. |
— tho: . ioe ra conditions be coneaded I shali then wish ~ : d bo hae the speeifie form of the amalgemation and of ail the nocos=
“sary papors submitted to me for approval before being adoptod,
Yours vory truly
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. OS Ww 65 Fifth Avenue, ~- F New York, 7 July 24th, I888 ._ My dear Sir 3: : I have read with attention your favor of the 7th, inst” o
' and have received fmll explanations from Mr sonneoe of the terms 4 e 4
: h “3” shareholders from y hey ing any a iran ease Corferenle Same man
of the paper pubmi ttod tg me* “vpapeétinf” ‘the’ Woposea ee qe Se re) He hes ty ies
with the Sea Company, , e 4
I have to thank you for the clearness oud fudneus of you
statement .Of. reasons . dinpousd tobe in favor of adopting that
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plan, mi It would .be now idie and out of BLeee ‘to debate any ‘§ ‘longer whether such an ane e ate non ought ait any time to be made;
‘I yield to the elain pita is made ‘editiveitnay with ma
appabest reason, that the Better Aiomtedse of your directors of
fi 5 tay } the Local and tomporary circumstances Gives sae ane right to: fee eb ty thes eiper te! an or ray ; PT heve aneer opinion prevail, eke, f4o, y ead ‘ny
‘fhe increase of - capital and +he-inerease of intferest _
thereon sacwesbanied by a geerease of my deferred: interest on “B’
rates of : ! 7 : vs har. Vfokea On ply aN aye femmes, oy bine ae ging 16 tidee thesoadnlon chat a cumulati —
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shares must, as you wre aljlow,make it a serious ance yrs for me ~ | A (re o ‘
to consider “whether n any case I shaliL personally ein: by. ded 4
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very high rat dividend of seven and a jalf .p per pe y practically dobar
I sdloot Judge, whether a Poke
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‘which they have anticipated, I have therefore after consultation
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with Mr Fabbri, Mr. Lowrey and Mr. Johnson decided to withdraw all opposition ‘to a practical amalgamation if it can be done with the “following modéfications of your plan, - “4
First. . the preferred annual, dividends upon” A’ shares a Hiden; ta nerents Haro OG 7
are 4
shal] ibe six pr i kas
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Light Company; or at least shall be eee my name withe- “4 ty
ame of _an rm in its vite, he cOnneny. may at;.a21 times and in manner nae: forward the fact that it is : the owner of the Rasen ye Swan and ipsaneowe or other ONAN To 4 eo. ! " this I have no sereutien. :
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pany id to own ope ya is an Electric Lighting systems to wide
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LL. nave Mtsiivees Lavantione as vedi epensani. e6—tre— tarp my title
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to which is not as I understand disputed ey oe Moreover I, 4_
Phe redsebh tic Aeafect ts
am under contract +o-give-+e your Company, all my future inventions
rdetes by
corecerning Electric Light. I expect continually to make pdditions, some of which may be of great value, And—morvovrer I am,-argely ine ot ’ A) . . eat
CA y
terested in every other country in these inventions and, theiv. a
good repute, If because Mr Swan ahd I are disputing in respect
to one element of an electric lighting system, I should consent : j
[VARIANT VERSION]
coals ann emcees ERM a AR etn SEMEL BE SEE IIIT OMEN ERLE
: _ a ee at oat “1882 ey
Kev deck
nade by me merged and lost in a common name, the pecuniary loss
n 2 to me,weuld—doubtigss, be greater than any gain which I can expect Law 4 : ‘ from the most successful operations on your part in England, It
, Whkl,be better for me to lose at once and for ever the interest
- pti? oe which I sieeady have in your company, and be free to make other ot AL ” ° a
Bg ue Mey COntad, Pharry M7 by Cin, keak heeoG ies : APG eGo uBN Ty as England in—e-eemmon 4
4 connections in respect to future inventions than to
f!
memos T romein in this country ADeURer avert can as large an
an Mane
ae owner, ‘as possipye in, wy inventions, I foyo Wwoyer parted with i how ti ocala, EAM om ry preety trynfs my of my holdings cxcept when compél I oh. ‘Other holders are free
to divs st themselves of thoir holdings whene sss they cah do 6o—at nite ee eee o ye ae but Io am bound by pride of rept tiong by pride and
inteust tno ork to vowain intovosted in, ts L++— : I expect to be a large owner in all these inventions companies bY) wy tar. ned othe,
person/now interested shall have sold out and retired with eG PrORS Eas You will hardly akieet: ie to continue working to build up es new inventions and improvements a business in which my iden-
Lith nee been lost} especially when the preservation of that iden- wbh. 0 no Neeigety ls Ke naked Oe dum
tity worked reart—so~strongiy apn my interests in all other coun= tries,
If Mr Swan remains interested as I doy and if his con- tributions heretofore have been as extensive and various as mine ,
and if he intends continuing to devote ang active life #8, making
afte Cotu fap : constant additions to the property of the amalgamated and
“4 4 4 a a
if his pecuniary interests in other countries are subject to be
Bi peeted as mine are ie the use or non use of his name in Pngland{
then his friends might mich iseh equal fuee say whee Ihave said, In
thal hla Sa ay ht Waa atone iat absidcaia send “Masta emdcnn ae
a
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relies, tres ne RR ENIAC
erate tu ee ee
tos,
4
ough, 4 Ge. since neither of us wewkd be—justified as I think dn gifring oo
Syhat case there would be an insurmountable obstacle to an analga-
’ mation, profs. erect away whatever advantage is liable to accrue from, a-suecessfit
development of our respective labors,
k
t pelieve the force of my reasons for declining to : ao favor or participate in any amalgamation which does not conform
; . othe above conditions will be admitted by yourself and -yeur
‘A [haypthiifen jhinc clr, aan Curfoy feHow-sherchoidersy and alae hope yoy the men of business who
4 compose the Board of the Bran GomeR AB, ate oth deafuet dRaacZl whet Croted- Stak Should these conditions bes ponadeere., I shoutd, then Comaezni2o. :
wish to have the specific form of the amalgamayion ana(lan the — 4
nleterny. apers submitted to me for approval before being adopted.
#
Yours very truly,
Theodore Waterhouse Esq. I New Court
Carey Street, Lincolns Inn,
London W. C. England,
RESPECTFULLY. SUBMITTED,
’ bearings, and_secures: perfectly steady motion, thus largely improving the light, whatever: sh oa
ere,
i“ d.. Shareholders Be On| BT
taget
QUEEN'S Hovet,, Sr. Martins- LE- “GRAND, i : Loxnow, EC, ey 25) ee
Bare a ray tA hgh Ree Ge ee wud Sir, . .
‘The enclosed , ,gorrespondence is. ; respectfully submitted for. your. consideration asda ‘stock . holder in the Evison Execrrtc Lica Company (Limrreb).
Samrer’s. Patenr Puntey Gripper, to which reference ‘is made herein, is, mechanical : appliance of great utility in, amongst other things, Electric Lighting. While of very. little c i and. easily applied, it ‘saves power, economises: fuel, belting, and oil, obviates ' hot" stats. 4 |
may be used for its production. It also economises places, permitting the use of dynamos and) engines: in. the, most confined places, thus allowing ,of the installation of - ni Night in situatigna:.. where otherwise. it would be excluded from lack of space. - - aige.capaie + att Totook: up the English Agency: for this patent in, April Jast, . nd upon apriticatta to Mr. rE H. Jounson was allowed to place a trial Gripper upon one of. a‘ pair of .engines employed: by your Company, at the, Holborn; Restaurant. © 0.) eae " T caused most carefiil tests to be taken, with.the following results :-—
No. 1 Engine, without Gripper. No. 2 Engine, with Gripper. States corey 1 da SrkaAM REVOLUTIONS REVOLUTIONS CONSUMPTION ° Consumpriox i . Loan. ‘PRESSURE or , OF ; _ OF et iw’ Lis. -*.. ENGINE.) fo) DYNAMO, * : sag “HiCoage i
: i oa seul : L “ ANovadNos tf Novae} Nowe | Noose dis: Noite So NO ae 5 33°" 130° | 790° | 825") ‘Not Taken. : Ni Takehi | “800' : i ey way
works. ste Fb Ge ar i epee hago Von / 200 ey wo,
PWedber. | : Igo Mag 451 tiZ6l feasts bs Boa fs has ress pa td 3 poi uaa be Ph oh a) oe at : tip te tp tee! a i
- THOS sHowind AN ECONOMY or 32 per Cent, or rower; and with this the lights on the Gripper
|. Dut_without result, except that Mr. Ware refers me to Mr, WALKINSHAW, one of the concoctors
Seg
2
. STEAM REVOLUTIONS Revovutions CONSUMPTION Date. Loan. PRESSURE or OF or , In Lus, ENGINES, Dynamo, Coan Coat,
INo, 1[No. 2.] No. 1. | No. 2. | No. 1. | No. 2. No. 1,
50; 50 | 136 132
804 | 824 11 cwt.
50} 50} 130 } 131 | 788 | 829 | 10 , | 8 ,
50}.50] 134 | 132 794 | 827 Io |, 8 ,,
45 | 134 132 794. | 828 10 4, 8
45.
‘Engine were completely without “wink.” I brought these results to the notice of Mr. Jonson, who, however, told me that he had no part in the management of your Company, and referred me to Mr. ARNOLD Wuite. . 1 aes ; ee ec
I repeatedly applied to Mr. Ware to know whether or not your Company would take up the invention on any terms. : Seg : ” ee cae
On the 18th May he wrote me, giving what purported to be a report by the ‘Company's Consulting Engincer, condemning the system, and stating that it did not accomplish what I claim for it, I at once (viz, on the 21st May) took further and most careful tests, in the presence of Mr. Bicos, the Editor of the Zéectrician, and Mr. Hottoway, your Superintendent of Isolated Plants, the result being a substantial confirmation of the first series of tests. I made inquiries, and found that your Company's Consulting Engineer is Dr. Horxinson, and I have thé best of reasons for believing that -he has never been invited by Mr: Wutre-to. make. tests of. SAMPER's invention,
» still less has he done so and condemned it. . Believing this, I have almost daily. endeavoured to get Mr. WintTE to give the application an open and unprejudiced test, but without success: On the 7th
instant I made the Company the following offer :—. : ; : “
“ Mr, Samper will manufacture and apply Pulley Grippers to all of your existing installations : “in London, the cost of said manufacture and application. to be paid: by Mri: SAMPER, on “condition that the Company will make comparisons by actual tests, within fifteen days “after the first installation, of the economy of belting and fuel—onehalf of this economy “to be paid to Mr. Samper. . These terms. to apply to all existing installations of the
~ “ Company.” : : ; ‘ na . a ‘With this I gave Mr, Samper’s references, cither of whom will tell you that he is a solid man, able to give substantial guarantees for anything he may undertake, ; : : ‘ » Lhave again and again applied to know whether this has been brought before your Directors,
‘
of, the wai lig
rete
“The engine'to ee Gripper Was applied. isi Giipper; * satisfactorily” carried" miore “lights.” “Beth ‘engine: > have 0 1
Monday evening last the Restaurant Manager, Mr. Hamp, told ‘me | lie was momentaril the breakage of half his lights through this, .overdriving, 7 :
I ‘bring thesé facts! to your notice in justice to my employer, who has blamed mé 2 fe . keeping in hand for your Company, the ifirst refusal of the adaptation of his, patent.,
Abo tot »I do not;complain of: Mr. White's -sloth, eae aN nual ihe oF ma
mipértance to! ila Light! ‘Companies, ‘A ct the’ a
x T ov Queen's HOTEL, St,;:MARTIN'S-LE-GRAND, iif yy.cthe | ge 4 tite . Lonpon, E.C., 23rd uly, 1883. . ARNOLD Wuite, Esq,, ; , : : wdbat, coheed vos Epison: Erecrric. Liat COMPANY (Limited) : te 3 : : ou 4y Coleman, Street, E,C... .; j
: , " SIR, : SAMPER'S PATENT PULLEY GRIPPER," . | s I beg to notify you that the offer made to,your Company by mine of 7th instant is hereby withdruwn, - -Lreturn your letter.to Mr. Walkinshaw unused, as I find he is one of the parties concerned in. the getting up - : . | of the. Report sent’ me ‘in’ May; which falsely pretended that proper tests had been made of Mr° Samper's invention, and, with equal falsity, pretended to emanate from the Compiiny's consulting engineer—ée., if Iam rightly informed that Dr, Hopkinson hole that position.” Ido ‘not -belidve: that Dri. Hopkinson has made any report on Samper’s system— still less an adverse one. If; tHerefore, you: shave .nd beiter qualifi fied individual than Mr, Walkinshaw to refer me to, I’. prefer to withdraw my: offer, ahd I have given“orders to remove the Gripper from the Holborn Restaurant installation! .1/ I wished the Edison Company to have the first’ benefit of Samper’s invention; on’ account of 1 my old: personal friendship with Edison's‘ but life is: too! short to struggle any: longer. with: the ignorance and indifference you havé shown, and owhen your Company needs: to ‘ise the invention, :as ‘they certainly will, you. will ;have to treat for: itiwith'at bey 3 companys f for I have no doubt that by this day week qe can. find an Electric Light Company’ ‘to'take ft over,
; | Yo ours obediently : ; ad UMFK ADAMS.
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fru TUR Guicuer Etectaic Ligur 4 ‘AND’ Power ‘Co. “Lanrrio, BATTERIES Founpry, Lonpon, S.W., June 20fh, 1883.
OO MRM. BE ADAMS, EAT “ : ; ;
- + "* + ‘Queen's Hotel, St. Martin’s-le-Grand, ied : ee : ‘f
2 Dear'Sir, — *.. — ears : ee A me In reply, to your inquiry as to the working of the Samper's Pulley Grippers fixed by -you, to our). as
ae . "machinery, ‘at the ‘Crystal’ Palace Electric’ Light Exhibition, we are pleased: to bear testimony to their thorough ~~ ee ‘ PB nsitiae siserniee We were employing two 10-1LP, and one 6-7, ‘engines, by Messrs, Ransomes, Head, and Jefferies, “to. :
Soro nn gene garner tanta gamers re ntnn eaten i
: ae a dynamo, machines, actuating sixteen are, Jamps of, 2,300-C,., each, and 600 jncandescent lamps of t6-c.P. ean d
; these'engines Combined could’ only with difhdulty accomplish ‘thls work” th Camaty ‘permitted you tb? } ee ‘apply two of your Grippers:to the ‘cotintershaft, The result was that, we were enabled to. dispense withtonbyof.ther - : AOE, engines, and with the remaining two, viz. one’ 16-i1.7, and one fo-i.P., to'do the work with ease: Further, -: . the'stiatting*ratl cooler than ‘heretofore aud the light’ was’ better, Swing’ to'tile dbsetice'of “belt! tovement;'and ‘to an . increase! in, thergcit.F: of twd-voltsis We ‘ire (pleased to -hear. that. yon have. instructions tolapply. the 4 Grippers at" ; i Attional; Hisheries Exhibjtion,,, where. we, have a linge, show .of both, arc and incandescent lamps, ase AT) ( we shall get improved results there ki , aie ures SUTHOEE ene cg ong Pleey
ca f
8 Yours faithfully, 2b oct 4 phi be Tue GutenerExecrric Lic ‘Anb!:Power Co. itliur! suit ‘ 10 : Dhgnie Ciyiew gett? al esti a Fs HARRISON, Manager. !
Pe 3 Len dea eehbueahitatinge bhi g a ees eee Re ee ' ; Mr. Fred. H, Varley’ ‘having,’ by ‘chance; ‘beéh'presént ‘at~a' trial ‘of the Gripper’‘at ‘the ‘Royal: - et) Aquikitin)) Westminster; Ivasked' him! to"’be ‘good ‘enough ‘to. give’ met his opinion. upon the tesults, i
4. WhenidalPerrned ithe':following Teply:— : ; i es Pic dneae
ion mets nads fabless tlsta fare
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oa tae
Sot ptegu’l unit oo wae ate dM Peay) matt
| andl sings my, einen to town, Ty ruts Pulley Patent Gripper fs afforded’ by the current strength measured
FevVolutioné per minute of armature. - : ; IEA SPRY One PIETY <i
if. -Textract’ front your letter the cléctrician’s report: . 2102, OMith Patent. Gripper—
Revolutions, = - : Amptres, ; Coal (3 hours), " 690 13°24 -, gow. . fae 8
ithout. Gripper). i roth eas :
680"! 10°81, es 34 cwt.
t Taking, then, the Ammeter reading, there is clearly shown a saving of 22 per'cent: in favour of your.Patent Gripper over © ‘ a the ordinary made of driving, This is readily accounted for, being undoubtedly, due to the better prevention of stip and
the reduction of friction in the bearing brasses which your, system affords,, Agcompanied witha further savin; per cent. of fuel an ‘ ae pe ae ake
cp Mb tabs thal hau. a0 I Barris! ELectRic«LiGnt.. CoMpany: (LUsITEt ne Loe DAMS, Na DEARLSI:
wy’
Se
- Questions addressed: by him ‘to a Witness,’ is pe to communio same to the’ Committee: Clerk at the. next meeting of the Comittee.
3.
re Select Committee on a Electric Lighting Provisional Orders Bills. 1883.
MINUTES OTF AVIDENCE \ TAKEN before the:Sevect ComairTzE on ELEcrric. Lraurina PRovisronaL . Orvers Bitts. ~ :
Friday, 27th July 1883.
' [Great inconvenience having-arisen from the Publication of Minutes of Evidence taken
before Committees,. and-of Papers, &c. laid before them, it is particularly, request d that
“1: Members receiving such Minutes gud Papers will be careful-that they are confined to the “ poe for which they y are Prinied—the special use of the Members of sueh Cominitteeds]
104. MINUTES OF EVIDENCE taken. before SELECT COMMITTEE
Friday, 27th July 1883,
MEMBERS PRESENT :
bys Shien _ , Sir John St. Aubyn, le ae ooth, Mr. Story-Maskelyne, Mn, Whitey, Mr. Henry Northcote,
Tue Rieur HonouraBre GEORGE SCLATER-BOOTH, IN THE Guin
: :
- ST. JAMES’S AND ST., MARTIN'S (LONDON) ORDER (No. 5),
AND
STRAND DISTRICT (LONDON) ORDER (No. 8). ae
Chairman (to Mr. Meyse Thom; , from the Board of Trude. with a ar oe ie. Frogs
granted unopposed within the metropolitan district,
y ey . ip ° iT y Mr Mey Se Thom SON, I Suppose In that list ou would Wish those to be withdrawn t
Chairman.] Yes, the whole of them.
Mr. Pope.] You will find
Report, the list in Appendix 6, of the Board of Trade
Mr, Meysey Thompson.
ge ne a bea ] That list includes not only those that were granted,
been applied for and refused, Chairman.] I want tt i i diced Pernt Caos have been or will be passed into law by
Sir DANIEL GOOCH, a Member of the House of Commons, sworn. 26 : - Examined by Mr, Shires Wil, to69. You are Chai ink, of the 1 ot tered Con he ee I think, of the Telegraph Construction and Main-
1070, That Company, I believe i dats acer ine. ee es formed in the year 1864, and since -that
da C On a prosperous i i Tt has; a very Prosperous business. no Pepe eye eens
1071. Its principal business heretofore has be
of submarine telegraph cables 7—Y ea,
1072. I believe up to the pres i , c 72,000 mile - telecraph ‘ae zat time Hey have manufactured and laid about
en the maintenance and laying
The. Chairman intimated that { t ‘ ‘ the seen or ae caupany. it was unnecessary to go into detail a8 to
.
‘1073. Mr.
ou be so good as to provide me ional Orders which have been
ON ELECTRIC LIGHTING PROVISIONAL ORDERS BILLS. 105
27th July 1883.) Sir D. Gooon, uP. - [ Continued,
- 1073. Mr. Shiress Will.] Early in this. year your company obtained a private
Act of Parliament authorising you to undertake the supply of electricity :— We obtained our Act this Session ; quite recently, in fact. The Royal Assent was given five or six weeks ago; | do not recollect the exact date. :
1074. I will put ina copy of that Act of Parliament, but my learned friends do not question that at all. Now the supply of electricity for electric lighting was .not one of the purposes covered by your articles of association >—We were advised that it was not covered by our articles of association, therefore we went to Parliament to make certain. ; >.
1075. That being so, your company, as we know, were not in a position to apply for any Provisional Order at the end of last year ?—Not until we got our powers about six weeks agn. (A copy of the Company's Act of Parliament .was handed in.
1076, a you aware that your company has offered to the vestry to apply for and have taken the necessary steps by giving notice to apply for a Pro- visional Order !—We did so as soon as ‘we were in a position to do it. oe
1077. 1 believe your company would be willing, with the approbation of this Committee, to deposit the sum of 10,000 J,, or whatever the Committee thought right, as a guarantee of your.good faith with the Board of Trade to carry out the works which you may undertake ;
Mr, Pope.] The Committee can give no ‘such approval, nor can they call for any deposit.
/¥itness.| But we are quite prepared to make any reasonable deposit.
Mr. Pope.] I do not think you need trouble yourself with that. Any company of which Sir Daniel Gooch is the Chairman would be prepared to carry out its engagements, I have no doubt.
1078. Shiress /Vill.] But more than that I ask whether his company will not be prepared to adopt any suggestion of the Committee in order to show the good faith of the company in this matter ?—We are prepared to act in good faith in carrying out the work, and whatever the Committee might think right | we would agree to. 89° ote arn ee i ea
1079. I do not know whether the Committee remember it, but this was said by. my learned, Mr. Pope, in his opening. ‘I shall be curious to know what guarantee there is, or what guarantee you would have, or what guarantee Par- liament would have if you listened to the Telegraph Construction and Main-
"tenance Company, and rejected this Provisional Order with proper restrictions upon it.” Now, my learned friend says that he does not press for any guarantee 7——
Mr. Pope.] 1-did not say that I did not, but I only said this Committee cannot receive any or propose any. :
1080. Mr. Shiress Will.] My learned friend knows that if the Committee . thought fit to make any suggestion, it is quite competent for us to undertake to carry it out. (To the Witness.) Is the company of which you are chairman pre- pared to undertake the supply of electric lighting. for St. James's parish ?— Yes, we are quite prepared to undertake to light it.
1081, And to spend, I think, a very large sum of money in doing that?— Yes. ; . ae a : 1082, Have you any estimate of what it would cost 7—Yes ; our officers have gone into the cost, and we are satisfied to carry out the work upon such esti- mates as have been furnished to us; in fact, if we undertake the work we will carry it out whatever the cost may be.
1083. You have ample means for doing it ?—Yes, we have.
1084. You have large works and every convenience for carrying out the undertaking t—Yes, we have véry large works.
1085. And you would be prepared to furnish the light, I beileve, at 6d. per unit?-—Yes, that is the estimate that our officers have given us as to what we could do it for. J am not & sufficient electrician’ to know whether it is an accurate estimate or not. ; ad
0.104— 5. FF2
eee
106 MINUTES OF EVIDEN ao D CE taken before SET ; . 27th July 1883,] faken defore SELECT COMMITTEE _- j ON ELECTRIC LIGHTING PROVISIONAL ORDERS BILLS. 107
Sir D. Goocn, a aa : d 2 Pe Continued. a 27th July 1883.] Mr. Lesuiz. [ Continued. SE i mc
Cross-examined by Mr. Pope. .
1086. You said someth
I ing abo ing gi Notice, have you, for an fission hee es
application for a Pro Mr. Shiress Will.] Yes, we have.
Mr. Pope] But I ask Sir Daniel : Witness.) I think ness, you had bette stood we had taken all the steps that ae i elas
1087. Vor this district ?—For St. James’s
1088. But how cat i iaisiae 2 you possibly have given notice of it ave bia bs it; do you mean you have applied te fein bre ints Stter proved by some of the officers than by aval ; elf.
-] I-suppose the time has not
visional Order for any district 2
Chairman
Rahs arrived for the formal steps under
Mr. Pope.] No; clearly not, Mr. Shiress Will.] Here i Hh sy ere is a cop
Witness). Un
ines). y of the notice (handing the same to the this notice is given be
Act, notice h i forathe ta Tae to be given before the Ist J uly, and
Mr, Whitley] What is that notice? Mr. Shiress Will] This i i . 8 is th i i meer eigticed hee ie smn ng te ihe local authority required by 1089. Mr. Pope (to the Wi ' Sak ai we Witness).} All I can make of i i i month of Ney, Nene : 3 am right, is this, that a thebeds pala. eae which oe Ge power to supply electricity at all paw ial rte de hae oe a is willing to do ?—That is not quite dis oa a ea 0 Ldulcsee we thousht teas L 0 electric lighting, 1 thi ue our deed of fueoyperatinn is ean Act of Parliament to empower
1091. No, that was upon the « to speak accurately ag i the jean, ey er eat nae
[The Witness withdrew.
Mr. GEORGE LESLIE, sworn,
Examined by Mr, Shiress Will,
1092, Arx you the Secret, sone Ta etary to the St, James's Hal reaee p ee of that company lies, as we heey ee
1094. It consists of a large hall }—_ Chairman.) Yes, |
pany ?—J am, between Piccadill ly and
1096, should. It? — We
1097. Mr.
“N notice; you have not given any
1097. Mr. Pope.] And you would rather have it for 6d. than for 9 d. 1—Cer-
‘tainly, or even lower if we could. .
1098. Mr. Shiress Will.) You have seen the Petition presented to this House, and signed -by many of the inhabitants of St. James's, have you not?—t have, ee: . : -
1099. Was any step taken upon this subject in the district at all by the inhabitants >—No, I cannot say that there was. .
1100. Were you aware; as ratepayers, what the vestry was doing in the matter, or what action’they were taking /—No, I never heard of it.
1101. When was your attention as a large consumer of artificial Light drawn to this matter ?--About a fortnight ago.
1102. And that was, { believe, by the representatives of the Telegraph Con- struction and Maintenance Company ?—It was.
1103. In your opinion would it-be of advantage to your district, if time were allowed for that company to make application for a Provisional Order, so that that might be considered along with any other application for electric.lighting ? —Certainly.
Cross-examined by Mr. Pope.
1104. Do not you think that in every case where a railway company applies for a line, time should be given to some other company to come in and apply - the next Session ? ‘
Mr. Shiress Will.] That is quite a different question. Mr. Pope.] Is it? | have nothing to ask the Witness.
[The Witness withdrew.
Admiral Sir GEORGE HENRY RICHARDS, K.C.B., F.R.S., SWOrn. Examined by Mr. Shiress Hill.
1105. You are the Managing Director. of the Telegraph Construction and Maintenance Company ?—I am. — 8 7 1106, As the letter to the St. James’s vestry was signed by you, I will draw: the attention of the Committee to it through you ?—I-have the letter. 1107. It is dated the 23rd of May 1883, and it is directed to the vestry of _St. James’s, Westminster: “Gentlemen, 1 am desired by the board‘of directors of this company to communicate with you in regard to the establishment of a system of electric lighting in the western part of your parish. This company has Bill in Parliament which has passed the Committees of both Houses, and will receive the Royal Assent in a few days, authorising them to extend their operations to the business of electric lighting. In anticipation ‘of this power, we have obtained the exclusive right to Mr. Gordon’s patents, and have. esta- blished an installation on his system at our factory, Enderby’s Wharf, Green- wich, and some ‘of the members of your body have lately been good enough to inspect the works. We are desirous of carrying out at once an installation of
10,000 or 15,000 lights in St. James's, and are prepared to go into the necessary ~
details, and to make all the needful arrangements with you for this purpose. We are informed that you are in negotiation with Edison’s Company who seek
" ‘to obtain a Provisional Order over the larger part of your parish, and sundry
other parishes embracing .under their Schedule A. the very extensive -area
* between St. James's Park and the Green Park on the south and west, Piccadilly and Long Acre on the north, and Wellington-street, Swand, on the east. We respectfully submit to you that the granting of what may practically be exclusive rights for 21 years to supply electric light in such a large area is inexpedient in the interest of the ratepayers. From communications we’ have had with influential residents in your parish we have every reason to believe that the 0.1045. Ga. ' inhabitants
You will give ug ;
resources, the or as an English company of
9 ° y of ie .
nee? the suitability of, of Proving in your nit ee character and ampl
private electric lighting. Ole to fulfil all the me free of expense to the
782s to be provided for in the ae proximate estimate of cr le wef uelic and i riet comprised j t the total numb
‘In Edison's Soh ee
edule A, ig
the present
: at an end, b
se a a apa cera a 1 the Edison C he light at any be able ¢
Teadily afford ompany's pric © show here. h them adm n Ces, we do n i
ue ase pleasure of ea eee parish, pe ate aa the vestry would
clerk, th hfully,— Zee § Pemie, sou again in this buat Pps in this way we pe
» the other having bees uli hen came a f ness. We are, dear Sice
Tom the Solicitors, and the letter from the rela
Sone is dated the pa.)
2@ 14th
rade for a Jj aie cense to su ici : mn i atiemoray oe Pry electricity within a “digty} Edison F company, requestin Me ee ee ered by io lectric Light Company ae no arrangement my bee oto until your pro iene aaa With the s ade w a p sal has been considered" he
Harry Wily; ain eee ilkins, Vestry Clerk,” —I am, § e Act of Parlia OW Notice h; ments would you kindly ‘ an ined given to : Tead the notice:
C) . ] 2 hairman We do not want the Hotice ;yx we will a ssume that IS c Te Or, ct,
27th July 1883.)
1108; Mr. Shiress Will.] Now Mr. Gordon; .the-electrician, has gone into the question of the estimates, and- I supvose you would prefer. that that matter:
should be dealt with’ by him ?—Yes, certainly.
+ 1109. But you have had the matter very care confirm:Sir Daniel Gooch, that your company are willing. to undertake the
lighting of this district and to apply for a Provisional Order for it with all
despatch ?—Yes,
1110. Mr. Pope.] You say sistent with your own letter; your letter is in terms confined to the western
the parish of St. James's. Schedule A., which is coloured yellow,
blue. , Mr. Pope (to Mr: Shiress Will).) Upon the very face of your applica-
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Admiral Sir H..G. Rrowanns, K.0.B., F.R.8- [ Continued.
ofully gone into, and: do you
they are quite ‘ready. “the lighting: of this: district ;” that: is. not con-
p which.would show it. (Zhe same was handed in.)
part ?—-There is a: ma
1111. Mr. Shiress Will.] Are you prepared to apply for a Provisional Order embrassing not only such details as the Board of Trade may require as to scheduling areas, but are you prepared to apply for powers to: light the whole of the parish of St. James's ?—We are not intending to apply for the whole of
We are intending to apply for that portion of it under: and under Schedule B., which is coloured '
are prepared..to deal with a system of electric lighting. in that Order
tion you western part of your parish; that is your own offer, and Sir George Richards has just said, we do not propose to apply for a Provisional
for the whole district. Mr. Whitley.] One of the complaints made was the granting of a Pro-
yisional-Order for the whole to’ one company, was it not! Mr. Shiress Will.] We made an offer to the vestry. which it was for them
to fall in with. Mr. Pope.] But there are the facts; if you have anything more to ask the witness, do so, but I cannot-cross-examine you. ‘ IV itness.]. This is the part we apply for (pointing to the plan). 1112. Chairman (to the Witness).] You do not apply for the whole parish ;
that is what it comes to ?—No.
(Mr. Shiress Will explained the plans to the Witness.) parish, then we have asked
Witness.] If that comprises the whole for it, but | was not aware that it did. : 1113, Mr. Shiress Will.] That: is what your company are prepared to apply,
for under the two schedules !—Yes. ‘Mr. Pope stated that he had no questions to ask the witness in cross.
examination. | (The Witness withdrew.
Mr. JAMES EDWARD HENRY GORDON, sworn. Exomined by Mr. Shires Will. 3114. You are a Member of the Society of Telegraph Engineers ?— I an. i ton a gag : 1115. You are the author, I see; of a work upon the subject ; were you a member of the International Congress of Electricians 7—Yes, I was. 1116. That assembled in Paris in. 188i ?—Yes. : 1117. You-have invented, I believe, the dynamo-machine which is called after your name ?—I have. . 1118. Are you the manager of the electric lighting department of the Tele- graph Construction and Maintenance Company P—Yes, ” 1119. Have you.examined the.area covered by the Provisional Order of the Edison Company ?—Yes, I have. 2 : on 0.104——-5<" 1120, For
Pe For St, James's, W,
ees shown upon the ma + Have yoy
a calculate
d f—Y, required for on
. 9 5 XPense, becp rere act
very little 1. soedS? 80 m -cannot : T You TY little lig consi
hting uch of if Consists of the ae
Green
&M supposing ; are speakin . : ene pei but on whee public lights alo The length of ele ne, are you not?
n the Edis Schedule ie
Would Order ; Were Our comp; fe ™pany prepared a Prepared to undertake the
u 0 undertake sree the
8 ac thie ; acres; J th: ‘8 included by the =a
e
in the include’ ip your § Howed on Sched chedule ° Pea should Bae how that u ule A. 2— = Dointing to th paris} . Ish 1130, Mr € plan), » buundar Should. pro Were r equired, 77 in St, ¥> and should fake i
: 4 portion pon the large i ; Perbaps with a
Witnes, : eae Schedule Re
1131, ‘ . : what eee Shiress Win, lw
dule B. p: ose (subject ty ae is the am
ount th raller distri You would include ; ‘Son Sched ard of Tra e) paris is j oi, a includes the - Inste +82” on th ceadilly, Stead of our Scheduie a”
u ; W the *» Would be ag fol
Chairman, I do not thi
wi ’ tess’ gener
1134. Mr, Would cost you 1135. What wil}; estim at will it ¢ : af ‘stimates, as-T did in the Raj oet that district 7_ 4, ae S00 case; when T gain I ake it “Poke of the Rai 1 in two g - i600 cage, J no said
Ust ¢ e
"ON BLECTRIC. LIGHTING PROVISIONAL-ORDERS BILLS. 111
27th July 1883.] Mr. Gonvoy. _ (Continued. aoe ee ern
said that to entirely supersede gas would cost one sum, but to light all that is ‘likely to want it for some time, would cost half that sum. ‘faking our Schedule A. to entirely supersede gas, would cost, about 200,000 1, but to do all the principal streets, ond of course the. houses in them, the public and private lighting through all the best portion of the parish, would cost about 100,000 2. oo, 1136. The total length of those streets is about 4,745 yards, or 22 miles }— ‘T think that is so. ; 8 1137. Which I think you. reckon would be 900 yards beyond what ‘is specitied in the Edison Order ?2—Yes, about that. <i 1138. May I ask what is the estimated number of lamps, public and private, which you have reckoned for in that 4,745 yards ?—About 27,000 lamps. 1139. Within what time would the company, of which you are an officer, be prepared to complete the work, if you were authorised to do it?—We would _ undertake to do it in 18 montlis, but we should have every expectation of being able to finish it in about a year, and the sooner it was finishéd, the sooner we should be able to earn dividends upon our capital.
1140. Have you gone carefully into the question of the cost, as ‘tu the price at which you could afford a supply ?—Very carefully indeed. ; 4141. And you consider that the company would be prepared to undertake
to give a supply at the maximum price of sixpence per unit 1—Yes,
1142, Do you consider that that price would enable you to earn a fair profit? —I.expect that we should realise a very handsome profit at-that rate. In fact I think we should very soon find it good policy to reduce the price.
1143. Chairman.] Is that upon the assumption that you light the whole dis- trict '—Yes. fe
i144. And the people would have their choice whether they would take the light or not ?—We should take the chance of that.
1145. Mr. Story-Mashelyne.] How many units do you. think you would require to supply to pay you at your maximum price ?—I think that about half the number of lamps ; that is to say, about half the 27,000, burning about 1,000
hours a year on the average, would pay us very well.
1146. Mr. Shiress Will.] As you are prepared to undertake the supply at 6 d., I see you have made a calculation by which it appears that there would be asaving of 10,000/.a year to the inhabitants in Schedule A. district ?—Yes, that would be about the rate ; that is taking the difference between 6 d, and 9.4. taking the average annual rental of each lamp.
1147. You would be prepared to supply from one electrical centre, I believe ? —Yes, certainly. ; : ;
1148. If Schedule B. were undertaken, probably that would be from a second centre 7—Yes. :
1149. With regard to Schedule A., probably the Committee would like to have this in very short-detail. You would propose to have four very powerful dynamos there, I believe 2—Three or four.
1150. I will not go into any details with you in the first instanee, but you are prepared, are you not, to answer any questions upon, it showing how you have made your calculations ?—Yes. 2 .
1151. The Gordon dynamo, I believe, is a very powerful dynamo, the most
_. powerful, I believe, at present in the world ?—It is. . :
1152. Mr. Story-Maskelyne. Do you suppose you can get electricity any cheaper with your dynamo ?—We can’ supply it cheaper with our dynamo; I shall be happy to explain the reasons why we think so. =. ; ;
1153. Mr. Shiress Will.| The Telegraph Construction and Muintenance
- Company would be able, would-they not, to use any lamp that they thought fit?
—We should be free so to adjust our electro motive force that it would suit the
best lamp; we should not have to give a practical recommendation to one par- ticular lamp by fixing the electro motive force to suit it only.
0104-5. - Ha
Cross-examined by Mr. Moulton,
- Hopkinson Sive his eyj 1155, And you héard him say, di i aply, or more chea
ompany could er company ?— Yes, k me you would not ‘match your ®xperience jn electric }j hting against * Dr, Hopkinson ?—I would match my nowledge of electric lighting against Dr, Hopkinson, 1157. My question 8, would you match your experience jn electric lighiting against Dr.. Opkinson’s > Mr. Bidder objection to the question, ‘Mr, Moulton] Twa
Chairman,] It ig opkinson’s,
Your experience hting except in your Works ?—It jg - Quite true I have not done any except at our works, 1159. You have done no electric lighting except at your Workg entirely under your contro] *—And, therefi 1160. I heli
» Where jt is: y knowledge,
st ic supply which are going on 1161. The public supply is ably in exi Z Holborn Viaduct ?—J hy electrical apparatus and upon the subject of el what has been done. . é 1162. You are talking about Not giving any recommendatio amp by being able to change your Potential ; ig it Not one Tovisional Order that your potential shall
Ore, within m
: d upon the ence in all the dynamos and ectric lighting ; Tknow Practically
Condition of any not be change ‘Subject to 4 ‘month's notice of change, 1163. And then only with the consent 0 ing the consumers the y. i
L , they have not; that Upon the royalties w for the uge of it, 1169. ‘Haye You not heard that the Edis,
on Compan is ‘free to -ys n ‘dynamo they please ?—I do not know about. it, ee ; ee . 1170, Do-you Suggest that you
‘the Edison Company {
* company can supply electricity Cheaper than any ?—Yes j do, 1171, Can you tell us why 7 ‘there. are Several minor - reas Teason
dynamos, of the attern he Edison Co ae
mapany, are dynamos Supplying
SP:
ene
Seen teats
RDERS BILLS. 113
CTRIC LIGHTING PROVISIONAL ORD. a
ELE andiraod, 27th July 1883.]
2 re, su pkyin from 000 to 1,300 lamps or perhaps a little more each dynamo 1, o)
* gu 2
& ws be P P
Vin) its own steam engine. Each d namo must ro erk re late an ha
three must have
i attached. In fact each dynamo
its engineer:
- must have its
).reculate. the A ark: room to. 2 2 here must be one man. in ae oiler always in attend men in attendance ; : fee bean engine driver ani ust a. : sure; there m pressu:
i to each . is equal to nine.men hifts in the 24 hours, that is equ i hree s . ance, with t
ine & d dyn mo, W al wages Ww La 00 1. a yea or ea hose tot 8 Ss il mount to 7 rf r ch — a ? eng) n
; dynamo.
Peak, mo, does or each dynai . not, weruite ep: uany sie we use much fewer 1173. Your system dot men to each dynamo, : i S ‘many ay ie requires ai . it r—It r
c dynamos.
ith ‘k your dynamo hy that you wor' dynamo, but . tand you to eRy. diture per dy i ' 1174. Catieses peu ace is the ae the expenditure per iture it is only : a smaller expen 10 times larger, 1 é rk t— mo being | é yr dynamo wo he dyna How many lamps «oes eer lamps. -lamp. Story-Maskelyne.} from 12,000 to 15, as 5,000 1175. Mr. Story ke them to work fr to work as many as 5,001 We have proposed to a A ve you ever made ee e every reason to believe, 1176. Mr. seen ae that will work, as alcyardevaloped it. ine eon ?—We have ma but we have ni ever got more than Jamps: I t full power, it; have you*ever got m stopped when a t out of it; h d then we were stop 5,000 lamps much have you got to nearly 1,800, and th tity of steam 1177. How n We have used it up to r wer, A certain quan han I, or 500 r— ficient engine powe d deal more than I, | : 1,200 to 1, had not suffic o did a good deal for it; ; act that we The dynam ngine power by the fact the d for each lamp. arranged the engine We put a is require: ected when we arrang ine power. power 15 my partners, exp lace a sufficient eng that the dynamo ‘ rather than E not got in the pla hich satisfied us dynamo ca dynamo, w inciple of the dy therefore we ha a portion of the rs, and the princip aut r of lamps ou A n half its powers, a an enormous amount. > ae aatie ae mach Ie hase could increase it 800 lamps on one dynamo? bop such that we are os a fact, worked more than 1, ‘ wal have not, a : ‘We are prepare 1178. You itis only belief 7— ich will do “es You believe it will go a Ne atte of about this size ai = 1179. e can make a " > Yes; and tee than w “ de, is it not >—Ye 2 to guaran : has ever been ma 8, tter. 000. : ly one that. ha a good: deal better. 2—It is " 1180. That is the fine may be expected eon a belief of yours? i do herefore the next mac’ hat you.can do up to 12, r of a steam engine ca 0 th 1181.. The estimate t te Spelief If the ee calculate (taking ante jation: it 4s no : ertain size, ; uch larger horses a calculation ; | engine of a c f an-engine of som : I with an eng et out of an h more work. i regrtann Wor ower) that he.can get Tts, so muc : with Be- : different parts, engineer does wi much per horse re larger size of the F :. dynamo, as an eo f opinion So mucn 2are aleulate with your dy. rreat difference of op power, or say you can calcu there has been a Br ade 7—Yes. 1182, You say know that tion isto be m ; t a steam haem elestieas as to a ‘vith the cea ge a s Cc : i a vise ana that therefore y > : We cianot calculate with quite meee team: engine t— : can with as ine. : : ite the same. : ik as with a steam ike the same’ certainty —Not ay of opinion of the widest on 184 Or anything mee ‘that there are hae of electric engineering Do t you Kno t think the knowledg ‘ a 1185. Do: no int ¢—I do not thit : I can on’ that poi ry few. Iculation ?—. wreidused at paca ah agraa i any abtalaty ant theca f : 18 whethe: oan differ from . Task you "aye tricians di ay ae I do not. Pheer = great number of good - oe al 0} i -will admit. ‘ se ill not touch ou wil ; L wi 1187. Yc : hinpcagoake large dynamos Edison in respect ou 7—Yes. ay you.-are going r not than the. th y 1188, Now you Fone hex they are ee area will they not ?—Yes, they uestion 0: h work separate c ’ ‘, : upon the qu ; they will each w : the circuit will . oh arma he dynamo.stops, the lamps on actually Bee 8g. Upon your system.of the. dynamo.stop: , : 1109, .0,104-—5.
caus an be switched PPM aa have a
circuit wil]
. 4192. You have he: & as would h aes the a mae
in any dynamo ey Dr. Hopkinson say, aid you ae ie hn : § to the Edison system, i maid pone
fan » 16 would produce next to no
oO.
, 1194. What right have , cheaply than the Ed; ave you then to sayt Tegard to awitchiog wenn Lda not know whet t
u 95- Do you know what the cost of the E
1 196, How do the numb you know that? 3 :
nee Do van that it is known pare laa of the cost o ment about their dymes¢t® Bai ynamo requires,
I do not know what the Edison will
ynamo will work m r or he Edison will do with
the Edison dynam
Ti99. That depends upon wh
pply from different centres, as
you eee Do you work your dyna “~* do not understand Ins ?>— Yes, we work a re nice from the centres ¢ ork of mains. O a netwo rk of
1202-3, Mr. ‘Bid far as that dyn eae se ‘J And the case of the Edison n.
minittee is this: pply toa network of mains, nae
Chairman,} We , Halls ?—Cartai
. oo ertainly not, Nee the Witness that ‘thet pare the two systems j : i
cheaper than is his opinion thaé he aie thee we have it . Supply better and
Given us the r ‘ €ason, viz., th what j +s that h hat is the next reason 2 bilitas
which we furnj ish i upon. ed to the town of Nottingham“, from?—The estimat : m has e
‘i t ae se been commented, ¢ : at is e A ; : Posed in that estimate ie : Ae what other to _ : da oe has been Postponed a8 to lay down maing double: thet ngement pro. : vie; nt every house had . half
@ppened
r
‘ON ELECTRIC LIGHTING PROVISIONAL ORDERS BILLS. 115 er [ Continued.
27th July 1883.) Mr. GorDon.
hine, ‘and:half from another. Those double mains do. not require any extra expenditure of copper, merely a slight extra expendi- ture of iron tube; if upon the siigle system we should be laying a main for 1,000 lamps, then upon the double aystem we should be laying two mains for
500 each. a anne 1207. Does not that require a double system of meters all through, and —
double wires in the houses ?— It ‘requires a double system’ of mains, but not a double system of meters. ; - 1208. Has that metre which you have now ever been tried ?— It has not been tried except experimentally, but it has been tried in our works, and success- fully. : ag 1209. It hasn —No, hardly so, only a meter mad
‘the whole supply. " y210. I think you have rather gone from the point to which I called your
attention. In your system, do not you have two sets of wires in a‘house which are quite independent of each other ?—Yes.
1211. Do you mean to say that that will not’ increase the cost to the con- sumer 7—Certainly not; it will increase it in one way, but it will not increase it by nearly as much as is saved by the other advantages of the system. ” 4212. What are the other advantages of the system ?—The saving in wages,
for example, 1213. Your system is the alternating system ?—Yes ; but before I leave that
question of the wages, may I mention what a large sum those amount to. Upon
an estimate for about 25,000 lamps, where, according to the system we work upon, the current expenditure would be about 22,000 1. by using two dynamos at work, and one in reserve, each dynamo being of the power of 15,000 lights ; if we use dynamos of the power of from 1,300 to 1,500. it would increase the
total expenditure by considerably more than 50 per cent.
Mr. Moulton stated that he would not further cross-examine the Witness on this point, but would ask leave to call two eminent witnesses to prove that the statement was inaccurate. ; , ;
Mr. Moulton (to the Witness).] Is it not the fact that because yours
“js the alternating current, the mains will have to be double or quadruple what we required for a direct current ?>—— - " Chairman.) This is not a question that we need try out in the way that you desire. If ever this gentleman goes before the Board of Trade he will tave to make good his position, and show them how he proposes to work
his engines. ° Mr. Moulton.] This Witness says his system is cheaper than the Edison
system. : : -Chairman.] He says they profess:to supply more cheaply than the Edison . Company, but you can only get primd facie evidence that that is 80.
Mr. Bidder.] For the purpose of this case, I think the case I am going to ‘put before the Committee, is that we believe we can do it, but it is not necessary for that purpose to put before the Committee all the details of
- the apparatus. Mr. Pope.] It is a little important that the Committee should be able to estimate ‘whether’ the Witness’s belief is well or ill-founded, and ‘should
know what evidence he can bring forward to justify his impression. .
1214. Mr. Moulton.] 1 will only ask one question which goes directly to the question of cost, whether the mains would not have to be at least double or quadruple the size that they would be with the continuous current t—I say they -
half its light from one mac
ot been tried to measure the whole supply in the works, has it? seeing that we have 2,000 lamps in the works, and we have e for 25 Inmps ; of course it has not been tried for measuring
would be just about the same size. - . 1215. Is not the potential proposed, only half what it would be by the con- * O.104-—5- - ; ae © Gee - “. . tinuous
fee aan aS tt ad eg er ere
116 MIN | UTES OF EVIDENCE taken before’ SELECT
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tinuous system ? . . (Continued 110, *—-Ounr ‘potential is 105 . 27th July 1883.) Mr. Gorpon. (Continued.
; the Edison potential is,
I believe, a oe —aaer 2—No, I calculate I could do it for about half 6d. upon that out-
1216, You kn ‘ to continuous ¢ ow that the limits of ae urrents, potential for 6 d. use a higher potential y ciated atad alternating curren, the Board of Trade e el dna ’ '—Yes, but to ree 1231. Do I understand that you could do it upon that for half 6 d.?—Here I i but we have taken 6d. as what we con-
have stated what we think we.can do, sider a perfectly safe margin, and we would contract to do it for 6 d.
two in series Its? Peoause I do not 1232, You say you, would hope to be able to reduce it below 6 d., because
nd an incandesce nt lam is alw, . ? W - he net been invoice ut would work up to the limit of th that you could you think it would be politic for you to do so t—Certainly. sh 18. The mains are the hi of the direct current - 1233. Do you think that the ‘Edison Company will not do the same ?—No ould say not, chief cost of the inst lat} : : doubt they will do it if they can, but I do not think they could do it so cheaply 1219, What _ allation, are they not ?-—] ‘as we can. : Chairman.] The Committee do not wish to pursue this’ any further,
they have the Witness’s statement.
1220, That is enoug! current, have libert ough forme. Theref , y to dey : ore th the cost of what would develop in a oaeta ne uke advocate the conti same time we » Under your syst » Which would divid Inuoug j : i larger items ; fare eeuee by 2 or 4 sear the larger items ?- ved 2 or 4, _ Re-examined by Mr. Bidder. a 3 8 to say, th ? more, th ame at th ; : : 1221, Is not th ay, the cost of the at 9 bie cost of anoth s i . ther 8 not the reduction in attendance u er of the 1234. You believe that you are-correct in the views which you have put ; i tion nica of the me oe Y sarveey very pee 4 i belare the Cosme fo. | ; ° , | not be hal € dynomos wou €'—No; I sh auer than 1235. Iam not going to follow these details, but in point of fact, although alf or a quarter, Id be something eonaiaennie ay the reduc- you hope to get half the district, your estimate of 6 d. does not depend upon | do voke ere Story-Maskelyne 1 Wh » Dut it would ; your getting half the district?—No, certainly not; it is what we are prepared lj attri .| What ‘ : oO ‘ : at We j depends une ee severally to the ere eiliate of the or ee ,o a aie mike that offer of 6d., independently of a single promise to take | ae Taking 27,000 tha poe, taking such a oe jvirest—-That mitacly 8 1236. I take it without going into the detail, that as you increase the would be considerably less a or Instance >—J should ce as this, Y “_ number of your customers, So, pari passu, you put on fresh dynamos /—Yes, we i Mr. Pope.} 1 an 2 quatter of the whole Say that then the main He shall, with each increase. { cost was J, understood Mr. Gord oes ie 5 : - 1237. Your expense of installation is proportional, except with regard to the i ‘ased upon the assumed connie to say that his caloulati : : number of mains to the number of customers 2—Yes, except that we shall { jum ation of his : make a larger start at first. ; \
ption of 37,000 lamps. ; ns ware . oH _ [The Witness withdrew.
utely u Y upon that, but-he was not quite clans ood he did not . ee , ; Mr. CHARLES. ERNEST SPAGNOLETTI, sworn. _
Pa creat dt was half of half - een pro a that about half thet eee
Examined by Mr. Bidder.
nstitute of Civil Engineers, and Vice-
Tsu : on ‘a ; 1238. You are a member of the I Engineers and Electricians, and I believe
PS are m President of the Society of Telegraph ore valuable and you have had very extensive experience in electrical engineering ?—I have. 1239. You have had practical experience of. public lighting in various
while ~ ° ¥ : : Reet ; 9 the private lamps places; you have had charge, for instance, of the Paddington Station lighting?
: the publi lamp, than private lam deltas
hours burnin patel ptr a Bs Pca gain, in a club district, the n umber of ~~Yes, of the Great Western Railway Company.
large, aud the is Fy lubs will wares will be valu : ill be likely to tak : pays or F ee ake the light first, so eee be very 1240. Have you been down to the Telegraph early lights Company's works, and seen the system with M
] You 8a : ‘ Y You calculate abor T have. . Fes nvout half the number of lamps i “4241. What is your opinion of that system ? : exceedingly efficient, one,
Construction and Maintenance r. Gordon’s dynamo at work?—
—!I think the machine seems an
it is very excellently built, and I think is one that is
When I 5 t practically me, n J speak of 27,000 } auly mean that it was 4 Bier py the plant. Amps, Tam Supposing Ge ea mstead of gas > quite capable of doing the work that is anticipated from it. 1 su Re tactically you mean : umber of lamps to 5 1242. Have'you tested that and other machines with the view of forming a | A ei about half the distri ‘ upplying a district inst dj ° judgment as to their relative efficiency and economy 7—I1 have assisted at the ; district? Do I understand wont instead of gag, ead of gas ?—No, T mea testing of other machines, and have found that the Gordon machine is quite 7 Fe r a © Suy that there are about 5 4 " equal to any of the other machines which have yet been made. either half or the hoketenssume the public auth 000 lights in the Mr. Pope.) 1 am not, going to say anything against the Gordon Ht, € of the district 7 ority will machine. : —We h e engace you ; . : : | - 1230. Mr. Moulton.) Yt is ut . ope it; but we do aiden : , 1243. Mr.. Story-Maskelyne.] What do you mean by “equal to,” in economy 4 . ipon that output that you cal ; me ' as or efficiency !—In efficiency in producing current. : ; alculate you could doit | 1244. What'is the loss of energy, for instance, in converting the work of a . ee. Ys steam engine into the work of a dynamo ?—It depends upon the character of the h, : machine
for : " , 0.104—-5-
118 MINUTE S OF EVIDENCE taken before SELECT COMMI
27th July 1883, Mi — Mr. Spaenorerti, :
Continued, Sw
the power you put in, com-
machine ; they i they vary from 5 ; pared to the power you get ato tt a
1245. What do you :
1246, ; get out in the G : ;
ian Me ent er eat dire pores Pe 95 to 98, - ~Maskelyne.j What do you ee: igo Wr;
1248, Then they are near i 3 aut ae. you get in the Edison ?—About 95
: D 5.
is to say,
force. ess wear and tear ?—Yeg.- J
1251. Mr. Story-Jy : large wheel ae Maskelyne.| But there is pre: wheel. 8, there is greater force ce ae na iy
Tefugal action in this ut that is in the fly
he electri varj c ibitz arious machi c exhibition was there, to ee th techn at the . conomy ?—
h Pa ; 1253. Mr. Gordon's af Were exhibited there, - aud with others tested
& your pardon ;
the hirhes : ty : e highest that we had ue *e to those that you had there ?—It comp . mpares with
here, v hos ae & tell the Csante whether yon have fone into the Supply electricity at 6-¢, pur ee eoraon is right in hi ° 1
1256. Mr, P compared with eae
] Let me int le artes errupt The highest was the Whiter” sak shat wane
he hi , ls machine, wees that it
: Tom one or mo 3 : Westminster - r : apn : er indeed to su re centres ?—-I think jt aa and as to its being as that from one Gentes ae thing : Ing into
am ; ry much better divide tae would be there, I think that th ; at the
] You are noi
I A Ot Concerned i
ordinary purposes ? feel any dificulty Hs disinterested witness these schemes
es 7 . U i M
are very largely ae T like them better ie age gtetnatin
. ¥201. Do you think that there; » the altern T to the contin ere ig
be given ; I think
'§ currents for ating currents
hand ma f d p before td to the : that in ve You, take the distric question of the distriet é ue district: which is gy district, you ha “18 surrounded by t ve the
lighting from mem I think this woul erie Conveniently wo
1263. That js : st convenj a:
ae the distri . : enlent district
regards that district Orth oF Which Mr, Gordon prope ety for
were’ to be taken, wo of it, which is surroy sr eeeed to deal with, Bi.
Separate centre ?—Y ae judgment for se 3t y a brown line, if Th 2 Cc . 2
i Science, is it
‘4 et the practj a8 ma
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capable of doing make our. selectio of lighting in such areas as these.
. Works.
President of the Society of a very long experience in electric engineering, and I think, to the subject of electric lighting ?—I have. . ;
f the Telegraph Construction and Maintenance Company ?—TI am.
doing in the way of electric li their machines and appliances. : th Mr. Gordon’s system ?—I
hav
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.. Mr. SpacnoLerti. [ Continued.
the work, as far as we are able to judge, tried after that we can n as to which are the best. It is comparatively a new system
Mr. Pope stated that he had no questions to put to the Witness in cross- examination. — eS (3 ; .
Mr. Meysey Thompson.| 1 have had the list, Sir, prepared that you asked for just now. I understood you to mean that the list was to be con- fined to: the metropolitan areas, subject to the Metropolitan Board of Within that area 19 Orders have been. granted to the Metropolitan Brush Company, with the consent. of. the local authority, one to Ferranti, one to Pilsel Joel, and one to the Swan Company. ;
- Chairman.) 1 thought several were granted to the local authorities.
Mr. Meysey Thompson.] Only one to the St. Pancras Vestry within the metropolitan area. Then. in addition to that, these Orders which are now before you are consented to by some of the local authorities interested. The Victoria district is cousented to by St. George's, the South Kensington dis- trict (as far as it relates to St. Mary Abbotts, which is. the Jarger part of it), and St. James’s and St. Martin’s, as far as it relates to St. James's and St. Martin’s Vestry... (Zhe list was accordingly handed in.)
. Mr. Saunders:] May J supplement that statement of my learned friend, Mr. Meysey Thompson, by stating that the City of London and St. Mary Newington are now applying for licenses. .
Mr. Meysey Thompson.].1 have no knowledge of that ; the City of Lon- don are not applying, and I believe are not intending to apply.
* Chairman.) The Board of Trade have granted nothing in the City. Mr. Meysey Thompson.] Nothing at all. Mr. Muirhead.] And I may say that the Vestry of St. Mary Abbotts have
not consented.
Mr. Meysey Thompson.) I may say, although it is not officially announced yet, that a Report has been made to the Board of Trade by the inspecting officer who held the inquiry with regard to St. Mary Newington, which is unfavourable to the granting of the license, and that the license-is not to be
proceeded with. : ; —— ._,_. [The Witness withdrew.
Sir CHARLES BRIGHT, sworn. Examined by Mr. Bidder. —
e amember of the Institute of Civil Engineers, and a Vice- Telegraph Engineers, and, as we ull know, have had e have given much attention,
1265. You ar
d with the works o
126t. I believe you are well acquaiute 1267. Have you been down there recently to inspect what they have been ghting ?7—I have made a minute examination of 1268. And have acquainted yourself well wi
e. md 1269. Chairman.] Is that at Greenwich ?—At East Greenwich. Mr. Bidder.] What is your opinion of their system ?
0.104—5- Kx. a Mr.
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[ Continued,
CE taken befo ; ; . ae ¢fore SELECT COMMITTEE
Mr, Pope.} I mu: re . nust ask you, Sir, to rst day of the Inquiry, this js Saini a - ree bed ona, gee
eT ‘ that we epee etl rent : ; 0 it, at | Mr Bidder.] M | a R js learned fri at ¥ ‘earned friend calle exami - the alternating current weceva ee = r. Pope.] No; aes Bt. 9; you very proper! i you ae * g° into the erie oe the the. He Say, Sir, at page 70, wh tie examining Dr, Hopkinson, He) (°u"ed fri the Telegraph Cee He proceeds to Pita st 2 wil sieton ene Tuction and Maintenan iy (meaning, of pote 18, “ Haye Phen any + and eeen and Maintenance Se, tO go on to show eee | is that the Tele acti eraph Construct ] on
"disom Company in
Hopkinson to
Tegard to
are not SIrou f q ‘ = yor ne int th T oO de 1rous o ‘on O the uestion of whether the Telegr tph Con
. course, I represent, Si Telecare ure Sin arned frien Company eps san Rea the Telegraph Catietractiog Belt hee inhabitants? ee Ido not pretend to d petitioned i mae a oe on tee rpreause the Telegraph Construction Cio on to what h vi ‘authorised to the repr t. James’s district, have ¢ is ae he pround oi forthe good deal to say for’ no a ask.” The pon which we, for the i in the Committee woul - pra that they might be just ; n her Company or anybody Be ” bd
witnesses to criticise the Gordon dynamo or anythine about it, ? iJ
. isa whether he thinks they tar sen a whether its works are e oie Pp
airman
—I was invited to go there for the purpose of seeing it.
~ monopoly
- for a second company to come in a
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Sir C. Brien. [ Continued.
27th July 1883,}
Chairman himself ;: you know generally the Telegraph Construction and Main- tenance Works ?—Yes, | know their works pretty well; they are very large and extensive works, with machinery and electrical appliances o; all kinds, and they are quite competent to carry out electric lighting works. ;
1271. And their system, in your judgment, is generally a.good one ; that is to say, their electric lighting system :—I think so; it was very successfully in
operation when I examined it minutely. 1272. Chairman.| You attended at the works for the purpose of examination ?
1273. I believe you are yourself a ratepayer of St. James's parish, which has
been under discussion ?—I am. 1274. It can hardly be suid that you speak under any misrepresentation ‘or
want of knowledge upon the subject. Speaking as a ratepayer, do you think it desirable, in the interests of your fellow ratepayers, that this district. should be handed over to the Edison Company under the terms of the Edison Provisional Order ?—I go simply upon the terms .of the Provisional: Order price, which I consider too high for any company to propose to charge us. 1275. Let me ask you this, because it is said on behalf of the Board of Trade “ We do not consider in giving a company a Provisional Order that they get a ; if we find afterwards that they are not supplying the electricity as cheaply as they might do, we should be prepared to grant a second Order toa second company.” Now, assuming that to be so, would it be as inviting a thing fterwards to compete with an established company having their customers and their good-will, and being in possession of the district, as to come to an unoccupied district?—I should say it would be
obvious to anybody that it would not be so. Mr. Pope stated that he had no questions to put to the Witness in cross- examination.
Mr. Bidder.} Sir, having regard to the aspect 0! but I will call Mr. Burgess.
I have some other scientific witnesses, but I think fthe case I will not trouble you with them,
Mr. ROBERT WHATTON BURGESS, sworn. . Examined by Mr. Bidder.
James's, Westminster ?—I do. . re under a Speaker's Order ?—Yes,
1276. You reside in St. chairman of the electric lighting committee of the
1277. And you attend he 1278. You are, I believe, vestry of St. James's ?—Yes.
1279. Before whom an application—— " Mr. Pope.] I must ask you, Sir, whether this is at all proper ; here is the consent of the vestry of St. James's under their seal. Is my learned friend going to discredit that by calling before you one of their number. If so, may I ask you to say whether that is a proper thing to do?
Mr. Bidder.] Had not my learned friend better wait until I ask the
question. : : - Mr. Pope.] Not only do they affix their seal to it, but they say they